Bert has been active in the real estate industry since 2016 but also brings with him over 15 years of experience as an owner of an interior design company. Trained to listen to customers' wants and needs and make them come to life as an interior designer, he is patient, understanding, and prioritizes time management. His interior design experience also brings added value to the transaction. Real estate aside, Bert loves music, food, and travel and has lived in New Zealand, Australia, and Asia. He holds a Bachelor of Business Degree from New Zealand and can speak fluently in English, Mandarin, and Indonesian.